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Tuesday, 05 April 2022 02:30

A Busy Day at the Office

Every March we get a kick start and reminder of how many people want to visit Valley View. We are not only seeing a return of guests that have not been here since our COVID closure, but also many new residents of the San Luis Valley and tourists wanting to experience the uniqueness of Orient Land Trust and Valley View Hot Springs. Every one of these visits begins with a phone conversation. Our phones ring non-stop much of the time. Many calls are from those who have never been here and require more time on our part to make sure they understand what OLT and Valley View represent. Since our offerings are so unique this can take some time and multiple calls. You may find yourself leaving a message; we will call you back. There are times a message is not understandable due to poor cell service. If we encounter a full voicemail box we don't try again. If you have not heard from us after 2 hours please try again.

The Welcome Center is currently working very well as office space and guests may come in to register and use the restroom at check-in. We continue to sell ice, ice cream, Everson Ranch eggs and a few snacks. In the past coffee and tea were available for guests. However, that is not available now. Please come with everything you will need for your stay. Everyone has access to a kitchen with a coffee maker or stove, so as long as you come prepared with your own supplies there is no need to feel deprived.
Thank you for your continued support and patience,

All of the Visitor Service Staff (Kelley, Lisa, Crystal, Katelyn, Jamie and Cherrye)

Monday, 07 March 2022 21:31

Imagine Yourself As A OLT Board Member

Orient Land Trust's current board is doing an awesome job ensuring that the vision and mission of OLT is met. The current and past board members work closely with OLT staff to keep things spinning like a smooth-running hydro generator creating energy that electrifies all visitors. We believe OLT's influence joins other similar tribes in the international arena of love as being guardians of our future world. Perhaps this season may include you applying to be on the Orient Land Trust executive board.

It is our honor to encourage interested OLT members to consider serving as a future board member. You can read more about being a board member at

To Current Orient Land Trust Volunteers and Committee Members.

Please consider submitting a letter of interest for serving as an OLT board member. You know the mission and goals of OLT, and have spent time serving in some capacity at OLT.

Send your letter of interest to

Orient Land Trust Members:

Please consider submitting a letter of interest to serve on the OLT executive board. Send your letter of interest to

In your letter you may share experiences you have with nonprofits (including volunteer boards), fundraising, finance, committee work, volunteerism bridged with your familiarity with own experiences at Valley View and the Orient Land Trust (OLT) bio-region
The Orient Land Trust learning curve can be steep for members who are curious about the scope of OLT (it's sooo much more than soaking pools). Here are some fun ideas for discovering what Orient Land Trust board candidates may recommend as part of an OLT adventure.

There are adventures where you can learn more of the scope of OLT. Enjoy a tour of the farm, gardens, bats or take a hydro tour (my favorite). Questions about the bioregion, wildlife, invertebrates, astronomy, water, mountain biking and hiking trails or running an "off grid" non-profit business begins at the Visitors Center.

Educate yourself about the many layers of OLT by reading the informative OLT web site.

Would you like to join an OLT committee? This is an excellent way to serve OLT and learn more about the operations of this non-profit enterprise. Contact a Committee Chair for more information if interested:

  • External Affairs (Outreach and Fundraising). Contact;
  • Internal Affairs (Finances & Human Resource). Contact;
  • Conservation (Resource and Protection) Contact;
  • Site Plan (Focus on Valley View). Contact;
  • Long Term Visioning (Future Direction) Contact;

Attend a board Meeting.

Observing an Orient Land Trust board meeting is an informative way to learn if you may be interested in becoming a future OLT board member. You can find more specifics of when board meetings occur and expectations of being on the board at the OLT website. The next board meeting is on April 23rd so make sure you make your reservation early, and remember to tell Kelly that you will be attending the board meeting.

All board applications are taken very seriously by the Governance Committee, so please do not let any obstacle (age, gender, disability, etc.) keep you from writing a letter of interest.

Writing Your Letter of Interest.

Please consider writing a narrative highlighting your experience with nonprofits (including volunteer boards), fundraising, finance, committee work, volunteerism, familiarity with OLT, your interests and expertise, and why the board would want you as its newest member.

Please send it to .

Submitted by Jon Florey, chair of the Governance Committee and Jim Manley, co-chair of the Governance Committee.

Friday, 11 March 2022 21:26

Douglas County Residents

Attention residents of Douglas County. Do you value Valley View Hot Springs and Orient Land Trust? Do you question and challenge the Renewable Water Resources (RWR) proposal to take water from the San Luis Valley and pipe it to provide water for growth in your county? Your voice matters. The Douglas County commissioners want to hear from YOU in regards to the Renewable Water Resources (RWR) proposal. People across the Valley and around the state are joining together to fight the proposal that would export water from the San Luis Valley to Douglas County. Our goal is to send over 1,000 letters from people like you who care about the Valley, our public lands and maintaining intact ecosystems. Send them an email or a letter with your thoughts. Join in the struggle for common sense! Douglas County residents have more influence on the county commissioners. Write letters to the Commissioners, or to Newspapers in the form of Letters to the Editor.

Douglas County Commissioners have already received many letters from Douglas County citizens supporting the RWR proposal and the use of ARPA funds for increasing the Douglas County water supply. If you value the time you spend in the San Luis Valley and want to protect this high desert valley and its scant water, your voice can make a difference.

We are in the public comment phase that Douglas County has begun, so it is imperative that they hear from everyone that has concerns and especially residents of Douglas County.
You have every right to weigh in on this issue.

If you have concerns, please contact OLT with any questions.

The goal of the water protecting organizations in the Valley is to have people write and deliver 1,000 letters to Douglas County from all over the state by March 15th.

Also, we will be requesting from all our members to send a copy to us, at , so we can keep a ball park record of what letters are coming in.

Thanks so much; every individual effort that may seem like a small bit accumulates.

Tuesday, 18 January 2022 06:14

Happy New Year 2022

May this year begin and end in health and well being for all.

We continue to encourage everyone who comes to be considerate and not arrive with any signs of illness. Our staff and guests have maintained a great track record for the past 2 years, may that continue. Our limited capacity allows for healthy distancing and a relaxed stay.

While we were closed in December our sauna was completely repaneled with fresh cedar and opened for use on December 31st. There are mixed opinions if this was a wise decision. Everyone can decide for themselves whether to use it or not depending on your comfort level. Guests may now come into the Welcome Center to register and check-in, masks are required in all indoor shared spaces except the sauna. There is no food or drinks available for sale. Everyone should come well supplied. Bring unbreakable water bottles to fill at any drinking fountain or sink faucet on the property.

You still need to bring bedding for all guests in your party. We are providing basic cooking and eating utensils, pots, pans and dishes. These are found in a plastic bin in each accommodation and should be clean, dried and returned to the bin before you leave.

Campers have access to the open air pavilion for cooking, bring all your own cooking necessities, none are provided. The Oak House is only to be used by guests staying there. Come prepared for cold weather camping. No open wood or charcoal fires are permitted; your own propane fire rings or cook stoves are an option.

Our gate opens at 11 am and all guests are welcome to come in and enjoy the pools and sauna knowing that vehicle sites are vacated at noon and indoor accommodations may not be available until 4 pm. Day visitors must check-in by 6 pm and depart by 8 pm. Overnight guests must arrive and check-in by 9pm. All must be out of campsites and accommodations by noon. Leave OLT property by 4 pm on the day of departure.

The "Guest" Wi-fi is only available within about 100' of the Welcome Center. We can not guarantee a strong-steady connection.

Wednesday, 19 January 2022 00:51

Saguache County Water at Risk

The Douglas County Commissioners will be holding a series of town hall meetings to discuss buying water from the northern San Luis Valley. We do not yet have the date of the next town hall but it is estimated to be in early February. The proposal to export water from the confined aquifer in the San Luis Valley is a scheme that puts Valley View Hot Springs water at risk.

The San Luis Valley is a high desert. With an average annual precipitation of just over 7 inches, water is scarce and precious. There is not enough water to export to burgeoning front range subdivisions, developments, and towns. The ecosystem is fragile. The hot springs water that supplies the natural soaking pools comes from fractures along the geologic fault zone that is adjacent to the base of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains. The Sand Dunes National Park is a large area that depends on the scarce water that is here. Farms and ranches use the little water available with a keen awareness of how precious each drop is. The San Luis Valley economy, about $550,000,000 per year, is largely dependent on agriculture.

We need your help. Please write or email the Douglas County Commissioners and express your concern at a plan that has the potential to devastate the entire valley and Valley View Hot Springs.

Contact County Commissioners

Mail a letter to:

Douglas County Commissioner’s Office
Commissioner NAME
100 3rd Street
Castle Rock, CO 80104

Email Douglas County Commissioners at:

Call the central phone line to reach the Commissioners listed below: (303) 660-7401

  • Commissioner Abe Laydon, District I - has indicated he has not taken a position.
  • Commissioner George Teal, District II - has stated, “As a Douglas County commissioner, any opportunity to bring water into the county I think does bear serious consideration.”   
  • Commissioner Lora Thomas, District III - has stated she does not support the RWR proposal.

Contact the News Media

You can submit a letter to the editor or guest opinion editorial to the Douglas County and Denver newspapers.

Douglas County News Press and all associated publications
Submit 750 – 800 words to Thelma Grimes at
Letter to Editor: Submit 250 words to

Colorado Sun
Submit 750 – 800 words to Editor Larry Ryckman at or (303) 900-5786
Letter to Editor: Submit 300 words to

Denver Gazette
Submit 700 – 800 words to Dan Njegomir at or (720) 220-5891, or online at
Letter to Editor: Submit 250 words to Dan Njegomir at or (720) 220-5891, or online at

Denver Post
Submit 650 – 700 words to Lee Ann Colacioppo at or (303) 954-1754
Letter to Editor: Submit 250 words to or (303) 954-1331, or online at

Pueblo Chieftain
Submit 500 words to Luke Lyons at or (719) 544-0166
Letter to Editor: Submit 250 words to

Following are some key messages you may consider including in your emails and letters.

  1. San Luis Valley cities, farmers and residents universally oppose the RWR proposal. The Protect our Water coalition consists of 15 water districts and entities as well as more than 20 cities and towns and over 20 conservation and environmental groups. Our group continues to grow:
  2. There is no renewable water in the SLV to export. There is no water available to be moved outside the San Luis Valley to Douglas County. Both the shallow and deep aquifers are "over-appropriated." RWR's statement that there are a billion acre-feet of water under the valley floor is false and has been debunked in court.
  3. All water in the Valley is connected. Therefore, removing water from both aquifers can reduce river and stream flows. Pumping water out of the deep aquifer can also affect water levels in the shallow aquifer. This could negatively impact the environment, including streams, rivers, fish and wildlife.
  4. Agriculture is the economic driver of the San Luis Valley. The roughly 1,600 farms and ranches in the Valley account for close to $400 million in market value of products sold. Colorado is the second largest potato growing region in the U.S. Every facet of the local economy is dependent on agriculture. Water leaving the Valley will only harm the economy and every job sector. The San Luis Valley does not want 'buy and dry for export' to devastate our community, like what happened in Crowley County.
  5. RWR's plan faces insurmountable odds of ever getting done. The project will cost more than $1 billion to pay for the water, federal permitting, water court fees, land acquisition and easements and infrastructure costs (miles of pipeline installed over Poncha Pass to move water from the Valley to the Front Range). It's a bad investment for Douglas County, and siphoning off funds that could go to more viable water projects. RWR says it will use reservoirs that belong to Denver Water and Aurora Water, which would require agreements and contracts with these water providers that do not exist.
  6. There have been several attempts to transport water out of the Valley, and all have been defeated. RWR is undermining efforts in the Valley to solve water scarcity problems locally. RWR's project will put additional strain on the local economy, environment and communities, making successful aquifer recovery and sustainable agriculture even more challenging.
  7. RWR's $50 million community fund would be a one-time payment and will not go far. The long-term consequences of the project will damage the local agricultural economy and far outweigh any short-lived benefits of a one-time payment. It will harm our agricultural production, livelihoods and community. No one is being swayed by this payment.
  8. There is no environmental "net gain" from RWR's proposal. Their plan to add 9,000 acre feet back into the aquifer would require the dry up of an additional 10,0000 acres of land in the valley. RWR would pump water out of a concentrated area that could harm area creeks and streams that flow through and near the Great Sand Dunes National Park, the Baca National Wildlife Refuge and the San Luis Lakes State Wildlife Areas. The Valley supports at least 13 threatened and endangered species and more than 260 species of birds, including the sandhill cranes. RWR puts all wildlife, including these threatened/endangered species, at risk. That's why 25 environmental and conservation groups have come out in opposition.
  9. RWR's plan is outdated and out of touch with the realities of Colorado Water, climate change and drought. The era of large, expensive transbasin diversions is over. This is not a good investment and proponents/speculators are not likely to be satisfied with just 22,000 acre feet. The goal of Colorado's Water Plan is to avoid agricultural buy and dry throughout the state and end new transbasin diversions that are not supported by all impacted basins of origin.
  10. The San Luis Valley has a long history of working hard to help solve its water scarcity issues. Locals have worked collaboratively to create and implement water management plans and programs to address aquifer recovery.

For more information: (719) 589-6301 Ext: 1849  | 

Here is a link to the Douglas County Commissioners Town Hall  Comment Form for ARPA

Sample Letter (Your letter has a better chance of making an impact if you personalize it.)

Dear Douglas County Commissioners,


Regarding: RWR Proposal


In the interest of protecting the environmental balance in the San Luis Valley, I urge you to reject the proposal from RWR. I realize that water is scarce. That is true throughout the entire southwest United States. The already meager amount of water is declining ever more due to long term drought. The forecast for the future is for less and less precipitation in all western river basins. The RWR plan to redistribute a scarce water supply to Douglas County from the Rio Grande Basin is short sighted and a threat to natural resources, the agricultural economy of the San Luis Valley, and the people who depend on the water that RWR is trying to sell you.


The San Luis Valley is a high desert. The reserves of water are being depleted by drought and overuse already. The ecosystem is delicately balanced and the nearly twenty year drought has stressed the agricultural economy, the aquifers, and vast natural resources such as The Sand Dunes National Park, the Rio Grande National Forest, and the Sangre de Cristo Wilderness.


The RWR proposal is flawed. The water reserves in the aquifers are inaccurately defined, the negative impacts on the San Luis Valley ignored, and the costs grossly underestimated - both in dollars and environmental degradation.

Please do the environmentally sound thing and dismiss this proposal. This is not a well considered solution for Douglas County nor is it at all beneficial to the high desert of the San Luis Valley.

More information: The Orient Land Trust Facebook page has a compilation of articles and news stories with information about the proposal and the opposition to the plan. It is a convenient place to access information.

Wednesday, 08 December 2021 19:18

Stop RWR Water Exports: Urgent Call to Action

Renewable Water Resources (RWR) is seeking "a $20 million investment of COVID refund money" from Douglas County. They intend to pump, redistribute, and sell San Luis Valley's deeper groundwater as a cheaper alternative for south Denver and Pueblo's growth. At risk is the continued existence of Valley View's geothermally heated spring water which could be drastically altered or eliminated! Our balance of agriculture and wildlife would be impacted as well. There is a public meeting 5:00pm Thursday night in Castle Rock followed by an (online) Town Hall starting at 6:00pm. There Douglas County residents can hear about the plan and respectfully voice their concerns. All residents are urged to attend in person, participate online, or dial in to 833-380-0668 or if able. 

Thursday, 25 November 2021 06:19

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Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:12

Neil F. Seitz, 1954-2021

Neil Seitz, age 67, achieved freedom from a long illness on November 17, 2021. He passed away peacefully with his wife by his side at his home at Valley View Hot Springs, Moffat, CO. Neil was born on August 12th, 1954 in Winona, Minnesota, to Doris May (Hoffman) Seitz and Ferdinand aka Vernon Seitz both of whom pre-deceased him. He is survived by his wife of more than 40 years Terry (McLaughlin) Seitz, his brother Donn Seitz (Revae) of Winona, his three sisters Suzanne Arnold (Richard) of Baja Mexico, Keta McCarthy (Brian) of Winnetka, IL, Amy Cordry (Val) of Winona, and his three children James Seitz (Deanna) of Parachute, CO, Michael Seitz of Poncha Springs, and Lucia Seitz Kaichen (Lucas) of Fairbanks, AK, as well as his 5 grandchildren – Alexis - 16, Tatum - 13, Gauge - 13, Elijah - 11 and Ivy - 4. Neil was a beloved member of his wife’s family and survivors include his mother-in-law Hilda (Scott) McLaughlin – 98, and his sisters-in-law Karen McLaughlin (Mark Schubin) of New York City and Elinor Laurie (Richard) of Moffat.

Neil was working toward an engineering degree at CU Boulder when he was told about a place called Valley View Hot Springs and his life’s path was permanently altered. Upon visiting the hot springs in 1974 he decided to take a semester off from college to caretake the hot springs for then owners Roy and Faye Everson. That semester off lasted for the rest of his life, and his vision for the hot springs and surrounding area guided him and proved a lasting passion. A year after he moved to Valley View, Terry joined him and together they steered the popular and unique resort for nearly 30 years, having purchased it from the Everson family in 1979. In 2001 the Seitzes realized that there needed to be a way to preserve the hot springs for generations to come, beyond their lifetimes. They created Orient Land Trust to do this and in 2010 donated the property to the non-profit. Not long after donating the hot springs, Neil was diagnosed with Posterior Cortical Atrophy, a rare form of early onset dementia.

Neil was very active in the communities of northern Saguache County for many years. He enjoyed his participation in the SC Search & Rescue in the late 70’s and early 80’s. He served for many years on the SC Planning Commission. But one of his great, and much appreciated, endeavors was the annual fireworks show at Valley View on the 4th of July which he provided for nearly a quarter century until his disease and other factors required him to give it up.

Neil was extremely intelligent, a true renaissance man, patient, dedicated and a wonderful father. He held life-long beliefs about the necessity of reducing the planet’s population, and this led him and Terry to adopt their three children. It also inspired him to develop an off-grid electric system for Valley View utilizing hydroelectric power, creating a “green” resort before it was in vogue. Neil was also devoted to the freedom of clothing-optional recreation.

Neil was a shining star of inspiration for many, many people who worked with him, visited the hot springs, or were lucky enough to become his friend. His vision enabled many to find peace, joy, community, purpose, acceptance and love. Neil will be hugely missed but never forgotten. It is hoped that a memorial celebration of his life will be held at Valley View in the summer of 2022. Gifts in memory of Neil may be made to Orient Land Trust.

Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:00

Neil F. Seitz, Founder

Neil Seitz died November 17, 2021 in his home. For those of us who have been around for a while, Neil was well known and recognized for many remarkable achievements. The hot springs was once owned and operated by the Everson family and, in the early years of Neil's stewardship, he spent many days helping Roy Everson at the Everson Ranch in addition to overseeing daily activity at the hot springs. Neil was a hot springs caretaker at first and then worked out a lease arrangement. Neil and Terry bought the hot springs in 1979 from Faye Everson after Roy died in 1978. The Seitzes rebuilt the swimming pool, integrated geothermal space heating, fixed up the old cabins, built the hydroelectric power plant, built the bathrooms, and navigated a balance between fixing up the hot springs and retaining a rustic and historic atmosphere.

How does one protect and shelter the natural wealth of this place? Neil and Terry answered the question by founding Orient Land Trust in 2001. Through the years before the land trust they had worked toward environmentally sound practices. As the goals of the land trust were articulated, past innovations and forward looking ideas became part of the ideals. Miles from the electrical grid, alternative energy ideals led to hydroelectricity. Valuing natural resources extended to protecting water, wildlife, and flora. Preserving the history of the Orient Mine, the agricultural heritage of the area as well as promoting sustainable land use were recognized and specifically documented. Trying to save some of the vistas and open land that once characterized this part of the world was recognized as a worthwhile effort. The oasis of the hot springs had for many years offered opportunities for people to reveal their bodies and, in so doing, reveal their undisguised inner selves. This too was woven into the purposes of Orient Land Trust. Part of the donation of the hot springs to the land trust includes a deed restriction that guarantees that clothing remains merely an option. Neil and Terry, conservationists with regard for nature and history, created the land trust in alignment with these values. Their life's work was donated to protect the place treasured by so many. The work reaches beyond the boundaries of OLT's properties into the entire northern San Luis Valley.

For many years, Neil and Terry lived in a small log cabin built in the 1920s. In the late 1980s, the Seitz home was built. There, Neil and Terry raised their children and used the precious large space for extended family get-togethers, board meetings, and gatherings for many occasions. Prior to his death, Neil had been ill for several years yet was able to live out his life at his Valley View Hot Springs home. We are grateful for his inspiring vision and many gifts. Our admiration, respect, and gratitude are extended with our sincere condolences to Terry and the family.

Founders Enjoying the Waters - Teresa Seitz Neil Atop Cottonwood Peak - Teresa Seitz Oak Dorm Construction, circa 1980 - Doug Bishop Main Bath , circa 1983 - Doug Bishop Neil and others, rebuilding swimming pool, circa 1980 - Doug Bishop Neil Seitz and Doug Bsihop surveying for Valley View's Drinking Water - Doug Bishop Neil and Terry's house project - Doug Bishop Founders First Soak in the Apple Tree Pools - Mike Blevins Founder, Neil Seitz starting a Hydro Tour - Neil's Secret Ice Mine - Doug Bates  - Teresa Seitz Neil's fireworks 2003 - Christopher Lindley Seitz Wedding - Teresa Seitz Neil Seitz at Space Museum, planning his next roject - Teresa Seitz Neil Seitz as a Young Adult - Teresa Seitz Neil Seitz- a Child Playing with Lightbulbs - Teresa Seitz  - Mike Blevins Neil Seitz - Mike Blevins

Monday, 15 November 2021 09:10


December is a time when many people plan to spend time with family and celebrate holidays. Last year, Valley View was open for most of December because we were closed for more than four months due to Covid-19. This year, we will return to our normal December schedule. We will be closed from December 1st - 28th. For the first 2 weeks (December 1st through the 16th), members can call to make a reservation and voice mail messages will be returned. We will not be checking messages or returning calls from December 17th - 26th so don't leave a message during this time. On December 27, we will again answer the phones and return calls. On December 29, we will reopen. 

Although the virus has altered our numbers and reduced some of the amenities that we all enjoy, we have weathered 2021 more comfortably than we expected. The contagious virus is surging yet again as of mid-November and it looks like we will all be making adjustments. The uncertainties call for a degree of caution. We are looking at keeping the visitor numbers reduced but hope to be able to provide cooking utensils and dishes once again. Depending on the indicators, there may be other amenities that we can affordably and safely provide. 

Thank you for your support and your patience. We have preferred to err on the side of being extra careful while keeping requirements at a minimum. There is a broad range of opinion and belief throughout the world and Valley View visitors also reflect this wide range. 

For the education, enjoyment, and well-being of current and future generations, Orient Land Trust: 
promotes a positive clothing-optional experience at all properties including Valley View Hot Springs, Orient Mine and Everson Ranch;
preserves the viewshed, including land acquisition; 
protects natural, wild, agricultural, and historic resources, in the northern San Luis Valley.